Comments on: Holy F*****’ S***! http://freethejefferson1.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/holy-fn-s/ Bopping is not a crime! Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:41:00 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: ChrisW http://freethejefferson1.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/holy-fn-s/#comment-151 ChrisW Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:31:22 +0000 http://freethejefferson1.wordpress.com/?p=50#comment-151 You note that "some commenters have suggested that we wanted this to happen and/or staged this" Actually, if you could have planned this, it's all the more damning of the park authorities. The only way this could be planned is if it's not a one-time aberration. To plan such an outcome, you'd have to be reasonably sure that the problems are so systematic and ingrained that the outcome we observed would indeed occur. You note that “some commenters have suggested that we wanted this to happen and/or staged this”

Actually, if you could have planned this, it’s all the more damning of the park authorities. The only way this could be planned is if it’s not a one-time aberration.

To plan such an outcome, you’d have to be reasonably sure that the problems are so systematic and ingrained that the outcome we observed would indeed occur.

]]> By: Bill St. Clair http://freethejefferson1.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/holy-fn-s/#comment-141 Bill St. Clair Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:11:10 +0000 http://freethejefferson1.wordpress.com/?p=50#comment-141 You can complain and write blogs and post videos all you want. The police won't care. Until they are physically stopped from kidnapping people, they will continue to do it. Self defense is not a crime. It is the duty of every lover of liberty. A fancy uniform, funny hat, and shiny badge is not a license to kidnap. Kidnapping is a capital crime. Calling it "arrest" does not change its nature one wit. You can complain and write blogs and post videos all you want. The police won’t care. Until they are physically stopped from kidnapping people, they will continue to do it. Self defense is not a crime. It is the duty of every lover of liberty. A fancy uniform, funny hat, and shiny badge is not a license to kidnap. Kidnapping is a capital crime. Calling it “arrest” does not change its nature one wit.

]]> By: Brian http://freethejefferson1.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/holy-fn-s/#comment-137 Brian Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:06:17 +0000 http://freethejefferson1.wordpress.com/?p=50#comment-137 I made a little graphic you may want to use in connection with this site. Ejoy: "Atlas Danced" http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/994/atlasdanceddb5.jpg I made a little graphic you may want to use in connection with this site. Ejoy:

“Atlas Danced”

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]]> By: Don Berg http://freethejefferson1.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/holy-fn-s/#comment-135 Don Berg Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:01:53 +0000 http://freethejefferson1.wordpress.com/?p=50#comment-135 In my post regarding this event I pose the question "What's a Cop's Job?" (http://blog.attitutor.com/2008/04/whats-cops-job-on-arrest-of-jefferson.html) There are both moral and practical issues at stake and it is important to articulate the moral issues clearly. In this case the severity of the particular event is not of great consequence, but the erosion of the trust that we, the people, have in authority is of great consequence. Police are entrusted with the lethal tools of violence and given extraordinary powers to protect us from violence and disorder, but when they use those tools and powers against innocent people they undermine the moral foundations of their own authority. This incident is a blemish on the honor of all law enforcement. The authorities need to treat it as an object lesson in a failure of professionalism and how unforgiving the public will be in the digital age. In my post regarding this event I pose the question “What’s a Cop’s Job?” (http://blog.attitutor.com/2008/04/whats-cops-job-on-arrest-of-jefferson.html) There are both moral and practical issues at stake and it is important to articulate the moral issues clearly. In this case the severity of the particular event is not of great consequence, but the erosion of the trust that we, the people, have in authority is of great consequence. Police are entrusted with the lethal tools of violence and given extraordinary powers to protect us from violence and disorder, but when they use those tools and powers against innocent people they undermine the moral foundations of their own authority.

This incident is a blemish on the honor of all law enforcement. The authorities need to treat it as an object lesson in a failure of professionalism and how unforgiving the public will be in the digital age.

]]> By: Dean http://freethejefferson1.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/holy-fn-s/#comment-134 Dean Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:20:43 +0000 http://freethejefferson1.wordpress.com/?p=50#comment-134 Brooke's arrest for asking "Why?" reminds of the scene in The Pianist where a young woman asks "Where are we going?" and is promptly shot. How long before we get to that point in this country? Brooke’s arrest for asking “Why?” reminds of the scene in The Pianist where a young woman asks “Where are we going?” and is promptly shot.

How long before we get to that point in this country?

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